September 15, 2011
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An Alert to the Xanga Christian Community
September 14, 2011
It is my intention to live as Jesus did and do what Jesus did while He was the earth. One of the things that Jesus did was point out the hypocrisy of the Pharisees. Through the Holy Spirit's gift of discernment and divine revelation, I may be exposing a fake among your midst. You may nor may not believe me, but I am going to tell you what happened (as it was divinely revealed to me that he will hide his past under the rug -- delete his posts). @quest4god@revelife made some comments to @TheGreatBout post on the "My Racism" post (of course, @quest4god@revelife (I do not know this person is a he or she, but I will use "he" for simplicity) already deleted his comments to the thread, but fear not, there are tags in my reply evidencing that he had commented, which you can clearly see in he post - http://thegreatbout.xanga.com/754995078/my-racism/?page=1&jump=1522729016#1522729016). The first thing that tipped me off was he did not seem happy that a fellow Christian was being transformed by the Holy Spirit. Not being able to see the transforming work of the Holy Spirit is one of the big signs. Instead, he wrote about how @TheGreatBout should let the past be the past and live for the present (we should be living for Jesus, not the present, but this is a side note) (you can see for yourself what he wrote and judge for yourself. For me, it is clear that he is concentrate on man's work and what man can do instead of how God can transform man). Another example -- he also stated that "love and acceptance comes from us first." Beware, folks! He may write well about Biblical doctrine and may know the Bible well because he had been in Christian circles for a long time, but it says a lot more that he does not know that "God is love and love comes from God - that we love because God loved us first." For a Christian, who has experienced the love of God and salvation as well as regeneration, such a statement should not have been made at all. The fact that @quest4god@revelife could make such a comment can only mean he did not experience God's love and if he did, He has denied the love of Christ and preached a false gospel (his is gospel is a gospel of man's efforts and not one one of letting Christ transform and shine through a person. If this is true, this means he is accursed as Saint Paul states). Whichever way you look at it, whether he knew or did not know, his making of such a statement really puts his claims of being a "Christian" to question. Not to mention that he deleted his comments to the post when I pointed it out (he also attacked me by assuming things that I did not say). Now, I ask you fellow Christian Xangans, what kind of person deletes comments to cover his tracks? Even if you do not believe me that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing, you can agree with me that he is dishonest.
Here are his original comments. As you can see, he points the finger at me for not loving, but yet he does not know that love comes from God. Would you take him seriously?
I replied to him in love, telling him that he took my words out of context and conjured things out of thin air. And, through the Spirit, prophesied that he hides things under the rug and that God exposes us to the light (I took screen shots knowing that he will do what God revealed to me he would do).
He replied to me that he won't "belabor" the point as though this was an argument or debate of sorts. TheGreatBout's post about racism was not about Jesus to him, it was about him making his point. He stated that "[he] know[s] of no rug that would actually hide [his] past." This is one piece of evidence that he is treating this entire exercise as a debate and argument. Note that I tell him the truth about how God is love and how love comes from God first - I was just pointing out the truth to him.
Now, he who "states that he knows of no rug that hides his past" deleted comments to hide his attacking a brother for no reason, to hide his ignoring of the Holy Spirit's work in Travis' life, and to hide his not knowing the basics - that God is love and that God first comes from God.
In his reply to my pointing out his error, he further treats it like a debate (saying that he is not adept enough to keep from a loophole). Being "adept" and keeping from "loophole" are debating words, not words of love and words of truth. Brothers and sisters, he preaches the word of God here (and he is held to higher standards because of it). The word of God is not about being "adept" or keeping from "loopholes," it is about the truth in Christ Jesus. Then, he admits that he talking about human relationships/efforts and not God relationship/efforts. He goes onto tell me that I should extend some grace to him like I know him. I really do not know him other than what he posts here. If he lies about God, I am going to point it out as is my duty. Furthermore, God does not give grace to the proud and God exposes the darkness to the light. His heresy is grave because it is clear that God is love and God loves us first. Instead of being humble to the word of God and divine revelation given to me by God, he hides in the darkness. He does not acknowledge that the statement that "Love and acceptance comes from us first" is clearly in contradiction to God's word.
Furthermore, through the Spirit of God, I prophesied that he will hide it under the rug. He wants me to extend a little grace to him. The Bible clearly says that God does not extend grace to the arrogant. God extends grace to the humble. Suggesting that I allow him to hide in the darkness is contrary to the Christian lifestyle and certain communicates pride and arrogance. We are plain before God and should be plain to everything as a outflow of our relationship with God. Not admitting that a statement contradicts God's word and hiding it is not what a child of God does. The Spirit of God exposes everything to the light.
It is up to you to discern for yourselves if he is a fake or not, or merely dishonest in his dealings here on Xanga.
Copyright 2011 by Christenstein
Comments (15)
I'd agree more with him than with you if I was Christian.
This is something that you should work out with him. Comments on xanga are extremely limited in their ability to reflect the condition of a person's heart. I would not presume to judge a person's heart or the state of his indwelling based on a few comments on xanga.
I'm never quick to assume a person who claims to be a Christian isn't a Christian. To me, it just seems he made a simple mistake. He may also have a different theology on God's love than you... and even though it may be difficult to accept, causing divisions in the church is probably the bigger sin. Please be careful making posts like this.
@blonde_apocalypse @jmallory - - I totally agree with you that we should not judge another based on a few comments. However, when God gives me a prophetic word prophesying his future behavior (hiding and running away from the light) before it happens and tells me His secrets, I will take God's word over my own human judgment any day. If you read the Bible, you will see that others have done this also. Do you believe that the Holy Spirit gives the gift of prophesy today?
@Christenstein - I absolutely believe the Holy Spirit gives prophesy. I've personally received specific prophesy. I might consider whether discretion was called for. Did the Spirit say that you should publish this? I'm reminded of Mary's prophesy and her warning to "treasure it in her heart." These are just my thoughts on the thing.
@blonde_apocalypse - I have asked the Spirit of God to confirm that what I am doing is His will and is revealed by the Holy Spirit. God has confirmed it for me so that you can believe that this is of Him and not from my flesh. Here is the post that confirms that God wants me to do what I do not want to do, but must do because His Spirit dwells in me: http://ethanhelm.xanga.com/755036964/grace-reflection/ May God bless you further with His love, grace, mercy, truth and all good things that come from above.
@Christenstein - Yes. I do. But I also think that prophesy will line up with scripture. I don't want to debate this issue, because I see your firm, which is good, but I also think that as humans, we can easily mix our feelings with God's true feelings. I'm just warning, be careful.
@jmallory - Thank you, my brother for the warning. I appreciate your Christian and care. May Christ's love continue to shine through you.
People experience their faith in different ways. Some people are sincere and yet contradict their own faith. The key is to act with love and gentleness.
"love and acceptance comes from us first." - To me, that says: "I can't wait for someone else to show love, forgiveness and reconciliation to me, but as a Christian, one who is filled with the Spirit of God, I am responsible to be the one to love first, just as God loved us first." ~ I John 4:1-12.
You wrote:
"The fact that @quest4god@revelife
could make such a comment can only mean he did not experience God's
love and if he did, He has denied the love of Christ and preached a
false gospel (his is gospel is a gospel of man's efforts and not one
one of letting Christ transform and shine through a person."
This is so far from the truth in either case. Norm is one of God's flock who has become as a little child and has truly known, experienced and enjoyed God's love for Him in Jesus Christ, plus he is continually grieved by those preaching false gospels and seeking to put Christ front and center. I do take him seriously and consider him not only a brother in Christ but a dear friend, an Israelite in whom there is no guile, one of the most humble and teachable people I've ever known.
Personally I would talk with him about this...rather than write it all out.
@naphtali_deer - Can you further reinterpret that statement and stretch it to defend your friend? What it boils down to is simply atheists and secular humanists make statements like that all the time because they believe that "love and acceptance comes from [man] first." The Bible clearly teaches that man's heart is wicked and that there no good in man, but only by the grace of God and God's goodness that man is good. The Biblical world view clearly tells us that man is evil and this is the core of the gospel message. To communicate in any way, shape, or form that man is good is not a view that supports the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ; it speaks against the sinful state of man and the need for redemption. The scriptures you quoted clearly supports the view that love first comes from God. John 4:7 clearly states that love comes from God. Furthermore, 1 John 4:5-6 states the following: "They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us. THIS is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and spirit of falsehood." As you can clearly see, those who are children of God speak from the viewpoint of God, not the viewpoint of man. Your friend has clearly admitted that he speaks from the viewpoint of man when he said that he was talking about humans.
This is one of the wackiest "Christian" posts I've read on Xanga. First, you totally misunderstood what Norm originally said. Then, as Norm tried to clarify his point, you totally ignored his explanation and kept hammering away with your own faulty interpretation. I'm sorry, my friend, but God's Spirit does not make mistakes as you have made in this post. If you do have any gift of prophecy, it is woefully mingled with your own fleshy pride in this case. Come down off your pedestal before you hurl any more reckless accusations under the guise of "prophecy."
@A_Piano_Tuner - I obey God and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for it is written.
Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil. 1 Thessalonians 5:20-22
The prophecy came to pass so it is truly from God. Do you know how prophecy works?
@blonde_apocalypse - @naphtali_deer - @Zeal4living - @jmallory - @Christenstein -
Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the LORD weighs the heart. (Proverbs 21:2 ESV)
Search me, O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts! (Psalm 139:23 ESV)
Argument will not take us deeper into the truth. May the Holy Spirit help us to search our hearts and gain understanding of the truth. Religion doesn't lead us to salvation; it is our faith in Jesus and knowing Him the way He really is. May our mind be renewed as we mature in Christ.
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